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RumpelstiltskinRSS is a web based RSS reader for your Gengo Jobs RSS. After some one-time steps, you can use any browser on any device to alert you for new jobs. As a bonus, RumpelstiltskinRSS does some filtering for you so you will only be alerted if the size and level of the job meet your preferences, taking the time of day into account.

I optimized RumpelstiltskinRSS for my own needs, but tried to make it so that it can be used by all translators. You can find RumpelstiltskinRSS at http://rumpelstiltskin.appje.nl/rss/. For a description how to use it, follow the Introduction link.

Note that you can set the refresh interval to either 31 or 62 seconds. Use 31 for optimal chances to grab a job, without breaching Gengo's demand to access your Jobs RSS at most twice per minute. Or use 62 to test if RumpelstiltskinRSS suits you, while still running your current RSS reader (set to check at most once per minute) on another device.

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    Alexander

    It's not a problem at all. In software development, feedback from users is essential. And while I am a user myself (I created RumpelstiltskinRSS for my own needs; making it available to others was secondary), it's only natural that there are issues related to details different from my own situation, and that these issues pop up now that the user base starts growing.

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    Diego Cavalcanti

    Hi. It's working fine now!

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    Diego Cavalcanti

    I have a question about the rss feed, i think you might know the answer. An RSS reader will only show a new job if it is avaliable at the exact time it refreshs, or it will show all jobs between the time it last refresh? I was wondering beacause sometimes i get an e-mail about a collection and the reader didn't warned me. 

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    Alexander

    If you set RumpelstiltskinRSS to check every 62 seconds, you will see the jobs that are available at that particular moment. It's possible that a job appears after you checked, is seen by the mail notification system, and is taken before you check again, so you will see it in your mail but not in your reader.

    If you set RumpelstiltskinRSS to check every 31 seconds, the story is a bit more complex because Gengo uses a per translator caching mechanism which "freezes" the info for a minute (to discourage checking too frequently). The bottom line is that both options (31/62) yield the same results. Why I put in the choice if it doesn't make any difference is a story on its own. You can read parts of that story in other forums.

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    Diego Cavalcanti

    Understood. Thank you!

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    Alexander

    It seems several users created multiple accounts, probably because they lost the password of the original one. Therefore, I added a 'Forgot password' option on the log in screen.

    If you want to switch back to you previous account name, just use the log out button and log back into the desired account by providing your Jobs RSS and a new password.

    At some point in the future, I will remove accounts that are apparently inactive.

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    Alexander

    I included an option to automatically open the job page when a new job shows up, as suggested in this forum by Diego Cavalcanti.

    I also included an optional pop-up notification, as suggested in https://support.gengo.com/entries/55053384-Tool-for-searching-through-jobs by Alicia L. Alonso.

    It is now possible to switch the sound off.

    If you want to experiment with these settings, you can use the new option "Insert dummy job" to get an alert immediately, rather than having to wait until a real job arrives.

    All these settings are on your Preferences page in the box with header "Alerts".

    If you combine different alerts (e.g., pop-up + open the job page) you may find they are conflicting and the resulting behavior is not what you want. Sorry for that. I hope there is at least one combination of settings that works for you.

    I only did limited testing, but expect each of the new options to work on all platforms. If one of the new options fails on your device, let me know. You can use the Contact link on every page of the tool.

    I removed the separate preferences for jobs for which you are a Preferred Translator, since the information whether or not you are a Preferred Translator apparently disappeared from the RSS feed.

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    Alicia L. Alonso

    "A job, a job!"

    Wow!! This is great. Thank you, Alexander!!! 

     

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    Alexander

    Thank you, Alicia, for suggesting this great feature which will probably also be helpful for others.

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    Nicktim

    Hey Alexander,

    First, thanks a lot for a quite useful tool. Second, i still have a few questions.

    1. Refresh rate. It is possible to use either 31 sec or 62 sec refresh rate, and as you say in the main post, Gengo is fine with translators updating their dashboard 2 times a minute. So, 31 sec works perfectly unless one simultaneously uses another rss reader, is that correct? But then, later on May 15, 2015, 22:45 you say that "Gengo uses a mechanism, which freezes the info", and that "both options (31/62) yield the same results". Doesn't this contradict the first statement?

    Is the result the same when one uses the following options and do both ways actually work without any troubles?

    a. RumpelstiltskinRSS (62 sec refresh rate) simultaneously with another rss reader (62 sec r.r.)

    b. RumpelstiltskinRSS (31 sec r.r.)

    2. Question about using RumpelstiltskinRSS on iOS device. Is it ok for the screen to be turned off while the page with the timer is processing? Or it should be always turned on in order for the user to get notification/sound?

    Thanks.

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    Alexander

    Hi Nicktim,

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    Gengo requests you access their server no more often than twice per minute. Also, Gengo caches ("freezes") the info per translator for a minute. So it's fine with them if you look twice per minute, they just don't give each time fresh info.

    If you set RumpelstiltskinRSS to check every 31 seconds, what you get to see is:
    T=0: status at T=0 (fresh)
    T=31: status at T=0 (cached)
    T=62: status at T=62 (fresh)
    T=93: status at T=62 (cached)
    and so on.

    If you set RumpelstiltskinRSS to check every 62 seconds, what you get to see is:
    T=0: status at T=0 (fresh)
    T=62: status at T=62 (fresh)
    and so on.

    So you see there is no real difference.

    If you use another RSS reader, and set RumpelstiltskinRSS to check every 31 seconds, you will end up accessing Gengo's server more than twice per minute. (Almost twice via RumpelstiltskinRSS, and on top of that every now and than via the other reader.) Strictly speaking that's against Gengo's terms, though I don't think they will sue you for it.

    Other then the limitations set by Gengo, there is no reason why you shouldn't use multiple readers. Two or more readers won't interfere with each other. Again, RumpelstiltskinRSS will see the same info for both the 31 and the 62 setting. So it's fine to use RumpelstiltskinRSS (set at refresh rate 62) and another reader (set at r.r. 60 seconds or more). Both readers will work correctly, and the configuration is in agreement with Gengo's terms (as I understand them).

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    Your browser (probably Safari) must keep running, and as far as I know that means your screen cannot be turned off. I'm aware this drains your battery, but I don't know how to avoid this.

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    Nicktim

    So, if i set 2 different rss readers to work each with 1 min refresh rate so that both of them refresh with a 30 sec interval, will the data upon each their refresh will be fresh? Or there's no point to do that, and 1 rss feader with 1 min refresh rate will provide the same result?

    Also i have another question about that catching mechanism. Won't ask you how does it work cause i guess it's a lengthy stuff to explain, but here's the thing - there're tons of extensions for browsers, that just simply refresh particular page with any interval. So the question is, does this catching mechanism reacts only to rss feeds or to such simple things as updating the dashboard page manually as well? This way, one could easily take to a working place or wherever you want a tablet/laptop with a browser, most likely chrome, set this extension, which will automatically update dashboard page with a 5-10 sec interval rate, and put it near the main pc.

    Thanks for a quick reply.

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    Alexander

    Hi Nicktim,

    The caching is tied to your RSS channel (the lengthy URL that you copied from your dashboard). No matter how often you refresh on your side, "refresh" meaning having one reader or another ask the server again for information, Gengo will refresh only once per minute, "refresh" meaning clearing the cache (= temporary memory) and making a new snapshot of the available collections.

    For the dashboard, there is a similar mechanism. No matter how often you check, only once per minute the server will give fresh info. Again, Gengo asks you to not access your dashboard more than twice per minute. A refresh rate of 5-10 sec is against their terms.

    That said, I believe the cache for your dashboard is separate from the one for your RSS feed. So yes, using a browser extension (or visiting http://www.appje.nl/rumpelstiltskin/autorefresh/available.php) to automatically update your dashboard page may give you new information that is not available to RumpelstiltskinRSS. It won't produce an alert, though. You will have to stare at your screen the whole day (or use software that stares on your behalf and generates alerts at the appropriate times) to take advantage of this possibility.

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    Nicktim

    Thanks a lot for the information, Alexander!

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    Priscilla

    Hello Alexander,

    I just wanted to thank you for sharing this wonderful tool. I'm a total fan of the jungle sound which definitely gives me superpowers to work. Working without it is indeed boring. I must add though that the jungle sound nearly cost me my laptop as it startled me when I first heard it and I spilled coffee all over the place.

    I leave the jungle sound on deliberately in public places (all around the world as I am a compulsive traveler). The expression on people's faces all around the world is priceless & on mine too, I guess :)

    Thanks again & all the best.

     

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    Alexander

    Hello Priscilla,

    I'm glad you like it and that your laptop survived the jungle sound. Perhaps I should include a disclaimer that the use of this tool is at ones own risk. :-)

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    kazuki

    Hello Alexander,

    I'm also a fan of the jungle sound that's the best sound of the world. I love it so much, but sometimes I turn the sound off and make a cup of tea. Very nice! 

    Thanks.

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    Alexander

    Hello kazuki sato,

    The sound matches how I feel when I spot a job in the Gengo jungle. There is a rush of adrenaline through my body, and I can think of nothing more than grabbing the prey before another predator comes on the scene. :-)

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    Priscilla

    Hello Alexander,

    Seems like you have a fan base already just for the jungle sound. You're totally right about spotting & grabbing the job in the Gengo jungle :). And no, you should not include a disclaimer. It will remove all the fun. Kazuti Sato has found the trick. You turn the sound off when you want to drink tea :)

    I forgot to mention the most important thing. It's the name Rumpelstiltskin that caught my attention in the first place. The name coupled with the jungle sound made it perfect for me. And of course, the reader is really effective (that's probably what matters most to people, hehe).

    All the best.

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    Alexander

    Ah, the name. It stems from my Mac only tool for searching through jobs. Since I couldn't come up with an appropriate name, I found it appropriate to name that other tool Rumpelstiltskin. So when I later on needed a name for the reader, "RumpelstiltskinRSS" more or less naturally emerged.

    (Obviously, I also considered "Tom Tit Tot", but spaces in software names can give weird problems.)

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    Priscilla

    I've read about your job search tool which I'd love to try. Unfortunately, my Mac is too old and spinning out of control (I use a very "unmagical" & slow way to search through my jobs). So, for the time being, I can only use your RSS reader to find straw in the jungle that I then spin into Gengo gold .

    The name for both tools makes total sense. It's the same family. One is for searching through the gold pile & the other, to find straw to make more gold. Tom Tit Tot would have been great too. If you run out of names for your future tools (I'm predicting a great success to your inventions), you could consider using the French versions of the name. We have quite a few funny ones: Tracassin (Nain Tracassin), Broumpristoche, Outroupistache, Grigrigredinmenufretin... They could be like the siblings, babies or distant cousins (whatever kind of family tree you fancy) of your original creation...

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    Carlos L. M.

    Rumpelstitskin don't work! It ask me for my username and password, but don't accept them.




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    Alexander

    There seems to be a problem on my server. I'm working on a fix. Could last a while. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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    Carlos L. M.

    Don't worry. Thanks a lot!

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    Matt

    Really hope you could fix it soon!

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    Alexander

    Short update: expect a solution within 24 hours.

    Long update:

    When I wrote "There seems to be a problem", that was a little white lie. Actually, I already knew there was a big problem one hour before, because my provider sent me a note they had taken the site offline because of suspicious activities, probably due to hackers.

    The message came just when I was wrestling with a $100+ job, that caused severe problems because the Word document with complicated layout had become a complete mess, with the deadline approaching. There are days when working via Gengo makes me feel very happy, like last Saturday when I managed to grab this $100+ job. Today I felt less happy.

    After fobbing the customer with a plain text version and an apology, I inspected the details of the information my provider had given about this supposed "hack". I turned out the problem was not related to RumpelstitskinRSS (great relief), but to an outdated script elsewhere on the same site. The script did not seem to be modified by some hacker, it just was deemed "suspicious" by my provider for unclear reasons.

    Since it was outdated anyway, I simply deleted the offending script and notified the provider. And then... nothing happened. They neither confirmed nor denied my action had solved the issue, nor did they put the site online again. I sent a reminder, but did not receive any response yet.

    I plan to wait for 24 hours since the site was taken offline. If the provider has not put the site online again by then, I'll move RumpelstitskinRSS to a new domain and post the details on this forum.

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    Sara

    Thanks for your detailed reply! RumpelstitskinRSS has worked really well for me so far and I really appreciate you providing us with it.

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    ChikaraShimizu

    Hi Alexander.

    Thank you very much for handling this problem. RumpelstitskinRSS is very helpful for me. I'm really looking forward to its coming back.

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    Alexander

    This morning I sent another reminder to my provider, insisting on a quick reply, but they remained silent.

    I started the move of RumpelstitskinRSS to a different domain. It's not very complicated, just downloading and uploading the relevant files (notably the users' preferences), but I also have to claim a new domain, and I won't do that with my current, impolite provider. I haven't made up my mind yet which provider to choose.

    I'm not sure if I will meet my self-imposed deadline of 24 hours, but it won't take much longer than that (perhaps a few hours from now).

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    Alexander

    RumpelstiltskinRSS is back!

    The new URL is simply rmpl.nl (amazing that nobody had claimed this beautiful domain name before). You should be able to login using your old credentials. Just let me know if you experience any problem.

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